Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

> On Jan 8, 2016, at 13:50, Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com> wrote: > > On 1/8/16 12:31 PM, Paul M. Jones wrote: >>> On Jan 8, 2016, at 12:16, Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com> wrote: >>> >>> On 1/8/16 11:28 AM, Paul M. Jones wrote: >>>>> On Jan 7, 2016, at 23:52, Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Do you think we can find 5 people in the PHP community that we can trust to >>>>> make fair decisions (NOT that we would always agree with, but that are fair) that don't fall >>>>> too far into "thought policing", in *any* direction? If not, then the community is >>>>> already lost beyond all hope and we should all just give up now. I do not believe that to be the >>>>> case, at all. >>>> Too long spent in a position of power, and even the most fair can become unfair. >>>> >>>> As I have suggested before: *if* there is to be a response team, let it be randomly >>>> selected on per-reported-incident basis from the pool of voters. Then there is no possibility of a >>>> charge of continuing bias, and it distributes power among the pool, instead of concentrating it into >>>> a few members. >>>> >>>> Proponents of the response team: thoughts? >>> Randomly selected: Absolutely not. I wouldn't randomly select someone to make >>> Ultimate Decision(tm) on a technical RFC, either. But if a question about, say, a parser bug came up >>> there are absolutely certain people that I would trust with that question more than others, and >>> defer to their analysis/opinion more readily. >> Certain people *you* would trust more than others, but that *others* would not trust more. >> >> Also, this is a social/political realm, and not a technical realm; would you not trust, >> say, a randomly-selected jury to hear and decide on a case? If not, why not? > > As many people, including both you and I, have said, we don't want to focus on the > "jury" aspect. (/me nods) If there must be a response team, I would prefer the "mediator" approach, as you note. However, the RFC as I last saw it is not a "mediator" approach, but a "judicial" one. If it is to be a "judicial" approach, my suggestion stands. If/when the RFC changes to a "mediator" approach, I will change my suggestions to fit the modified RFC. -- Paul M. Jones pmjones88@gmail.com http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php