Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct
| From: | Derick Rethans | Date: | Tue, 05 Jan 2016 16:13:13 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct | ||
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On Tue, 5 Jan 2016, François Laupretre wrote:
> Le 05/01/2016 15:31, Peter Lind a écrit :
>
> > A quick question: suppose you're from a minority group, and you've been the
> > target of abuse previously your life. You now join the PHP community and for
> > whatever reason, someone takes a dislike to you and starts harassing you in
> > private. The abuse makes use of the same stuff you've been through before,
> > and because this is a real douchebag, some very humiliating things are
> > thrown in for good measure. How exactly would you feel about having all of
> > this made explicit to all the other PHP devs? Presumably you look up to some
> > of these people - would your first thought be "Oh I know! I'll post all this
> > nasty stuff to a public mailing list, that is archived on the web where
> > EVERYONE can see all the humiliation coming my way - and where google is
> > sure to pick up all these things about me!"? If you happen to belong to a
> > minority group that often is at the receiving end of abuse, what would you
> > think if this was the message being sent? Would you expect to be understood
> > by your peers, or would their concern about being possibly accused of
> > something seem like an out-of-hand rejection? Regards Peter
>
> You're probably right but that all sounds too 'american' to me. These
> questions of 'minority group' refer to a multi-cultural situation that is
> totally foreign to my culture. But I understand it may be an important concern
> for others.
It doesn't even have to be a minority group:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4UWxlVvT1A
> Anyway, I don't say that it cannot happen, I just say that, AFAIK, we
> never got such concerns in the PHP community.
Sorry - not true. I can name several issues from various PHP related
conferences. Although not directly under the "control" of the PHP
developers team (and hence not influenced by a proposed CoC), they're
certainly part of the community.
cheers,
Derick