Re: Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi, I'll only comment on some specific points, so hence the trimmed email. On Wed, 6 Jan 2016, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Stanislav Malyshev <smalyshev@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 5 Jan 2016, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > > > >> I added a section on transparency, Conflict of Interest (though > >> this needs expanding) and accountability (giving internals@ the > >> ability to "overturn" any action by the CoC team with a vote of > >> 50%+1). I also made it explicit that accused people have a right to > >> confidentiality as long as no action is taken by the team. > > > > I am a big fan of transparency, but here in particular I'm not sure > > that every mediation attempt should be indeed reported. Maybe if no > > further escalation was required, less publicity is better. We need > > to be careful here, as many things could be resolved in private more > > efficiently if public displays and egos are less involved :) This is > > another thing where over-legislation is bad, as there's a lot of > > common sense needed and you can't legislate that. > > Yeah, perhaps just require transparency when action is required > (reverting commits, edits, etc or temp bans) I think there is a good argument for something like a quarterly report though. It does not have to be large, but something along the lines of "we had to mediate x time in the last 3 months" — and if something significant happened, that of course should be mentioned too. Such a summary report indicates towards the community that 1. the CoC is not just some fancy bit of text on a web server, 2. things (sadly) do happen, and hence nobody can make the argument any more of "the PHP is safe, we don't need a CoC, because nothing ever happens". Sadly, things happen—just like Antony illustrated. And I can say the same from personal experience. cheers, Derick -- http://derickrethans.nl | http://xdebug.org Like Xdebug? Consider a donation: http://xdebug.org/donate.php twitter: @derickr and @xdebug Posted with an email client that doesn't mangle email: alpine