Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

> On Jan 8, 2016, at 13:07, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paul M. Jones [mailto:pmjones88@gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 7:28 PM >> To: Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com> >> Cc: internals@lists.php.net >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct >> >> >>> On Jan 7, 2016, at 23:52, Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com> > wrote: >>> >>> Do you think we can find 5 people in the PHP community that we can > trust >> to make fair decisions (NOT that we would always agree with, but that > are >> fair) that don't fall too far into "thought policing", in *any* > direction? If not, >> then the community is already lost beyond all hope and we should all > just >> give up now. I do not believe that to be the case, at all. >> >> Too long spent in a position of power, and even the most fair can become >> unfair. >> >> As I have suggested before: *if* there is to be a response team, let it > be >> randomly selected on per-reported-incident basis from the pool of > voters. >> Then there is no possibility of a charge of continuing bias, and it > distributes >> power among the pool, instead of concentrating it into a few members. >> >> Proponents of the response team: thoughts? > > I think that depends on the nature of the response team. > > If it's a mediation team, with the sole purpose to mediate - but otherwise > cannot impose a solution - it's actually better to have a 'professional' > one, rather than a random one. I'd still have them voted on and changed > every so often (2 years that Larry proposed sounds reasonable), but given > the almost nonexistent risk of abuse, it's not much of a concern. > > If it's a judicial body of any sort - then it's a lot more complicated. > I'm not sold on a randomly chosen team - but I think it is superior to a > voted team. FWIW, it's quite different from a jury - as there's no judge > to guide things through, and there is no law to refer to. Both fair points. (FWIW I'm not in favor of a judicial response team at all, but *if* there is to be one, randomly-selected is less-bad than a standing team.) -- Paul M. Jones pmjones88@gmail.com http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php