RE: [PEAR-DEV] On PEAR quality issues and natural selection

>To be blunt, this is the only part of your post that I find a bit naive. > Every single PHP application out there requires tons of installation >tweaking. You have to tell it where to find its configuration, you have >to set the configuration, if it requires other things, you have to >provide them, and if you don't you'll get weird errors and won't know why. And admitedly so, I guess where I was going with this is.. 1.) What needs tweaking isn't always obvious. Again, another area where documentation would help! 2.) There is no love for the naive on PEAR. One prime example is this, I once downloaded PHPDocumentor from PEAR, having no idea that it was set up to be installed explicitly by the PEAR installer. (Which I discovered later) Needless to say I spent several hours trying to correct file paths and other errors. Then I gave up and downloaded it from phpdoc.org, needless to say it installed flawlessly and worked beautifully, which is what I was trying to get at. Most downloaded packages you simply unzip and copy to a directory in the same form that it appears in the zipped directory. Such an approach is more idiotproof and fluid with respect to installing to a remote server. Not to say that for some packages the command line interface isn't helpful. Though, as you mentioned there are frontends for this stuff, but another area where knowledge is assumed, in that, when you first encounter PEAR, having never seen it before and download a package there is absolutely nothing there that says this package requires an installer. Nothing that implies that PEAR itself has to be "installed". I'm by no means completly stupid, but why should one have to spend several days exploring the PEAR website just to get started with PEAR, when it really doesn't need to be so complicated as to merit such in depth exploration? Lucas, I think it was, once brought up the word "pedantic".. a word that seems to universally apply to PEAR. Regards, Richard York ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: The Spicy Peanut Project http://www.spicypeanut.net :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::