Re: On PEAR quality issues and natural selection
| From: | Paul M Jones | Date: | Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:26:18 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: On PEAR quality issues and natural selection | ||
| References: | 1 2 3 4 5 | Groups: | php.pear.dev |
| Request: | Send a blank email to pear-dev+get-27336@lists.php.net to get a copy of this message | ||
On Apr 9, 2004, at 12:36 PM, Greg Beaver wrote:
Paul M Jones wrote:I meant "we" as in "everyone on PEAR-DEV", not Paul and Greg. I agree with you. I think different developer communitites, in particular the "user" group and the "core" group, have different ideas as to what makes PEAR great. We hear often from PEAR-CORE (Lukas, PAJoye, Martin, et al) what they think the best things are about PEAR and how their management ideas fit that list of best things. But: the great unwashed (me included ;-) may have widely varying ideas about why PEAR is great, perhaps at odds with the "core" group. The idea here is for "core" to listen to their customers, find out why they like the project, and make sure their management ideas are in tune with the reality of how their project is being used. All within reason, of course, and customers are sometimes stupid, but the process will help refine the PEAR project and make it better. These things are true for almost everything, from small projects to large, and from open-source to proprietary. Please see the parallel "Greatness of PEAR" thread to see what people actively like about PEAR; you will find that the administrative aspects, aside from boundary-setting and a rules framework, are very much lacking so far. My point is that the PEAR-CORE likes to manage a certain way, but that management style may not be in tune with what the customers of PEAR are actually here for. Just some things to think about. -- Paul M. Jones Savant: the simple alternative to Smarty. http://phpsavant.com/On Apr 9, 2004, at 11:57 AM, Greg Beaver wrote:No, that's what I tried to say in my convoluted way: the best thing about PEAR is the installer.I do agree that there is a bit of KISS missing from PEAR, but I also feel that the focus of using the installer is a different kind of KISS from the old wild west download-and-run mentality. Once this is understood, I think the installer is quite an asset.In fact, I think the installer is one of the sources of PEAR's greatness. Perhaps we have different ideas as to the nature of PEAR's greatness.